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Interview: Santo Cilauro - Funky Squad

By Sean Lynch

Interview with Santo Cilauro
Star & Creator of the TV series Funky Squad, The Panel & The Late Show
Read the UNEDITED Interview - Click Here | Bonus Interview : Tony Martin

Santo Cilauro
Santo Cilauro, Tom Gleisner & Rob Sitch

Santo Cilauro with fellow Working Dog's Rob Sitch & Tom Gleisner (Above)

Santo Cilauro : Working Dog

Santo with a young Anthony Callea in Funky Squad (Below)

Santo Cilauro : Working Dog

While the UK have the Monty Python clan, American's have Mark Burnett, there is only one Australian group that has a success rate like no other when it comes to the film and TV industry: Working Dog.

The former sketch show stars have single handedly paved the way in original, creator driven comedies such as Frontline, The Late Show, The Castle, The Dish and most recently the ratings smash Thank God You're Here.

Sean Lynch caught up with the brains behind the operation, the intelligently spoken and extremely clever Santo 'The Wog One' Cilauro, to talk about Working Dog's latest Retro-DVD release Funky Squad.

Thanks for getting up so early to speak with me, what are even doing up at this time - shouldn't you be on holidays or something??

Early? Are you kidding me? I've been up for a long time! We're kind of never on holidays because what we do is kind of like being on holiday. I mean, the production side of things gets a bit hard, but writing stuff is always great fun - so this is our favourite time of the year, when all the production is done...and we are just writing our stuff and preparing for what we want to do next year and over the next couple of years. It's very busy, but a very good time...

What have you actually got on the drawing board at the moment [with TGYH finished]?

With TGYH we're just sorting out a few things, they're shooting in London next week for the British version of that show, so we're involved just a little bit in over seeing that.

And we're just tinkering away with yet more drafts on films and shows that we're preparing that we don't know whether are going to go to air next year or the year after. We're always working on something, and we like to gestate on ideas for a very long time before we put pen to paper [laughs].

So there's not another series of TGYH on the cards? Is that over with for now?

No, no - we won't decide that until next year, we won't really think about that for another couple of months. We like to get it all out of our system and then make a proper choice on it! [laughs].

Now the new Funky Squad DVD, the show is generally regarded as one of the few things that hasn't worked for Working Dog. Personally I love it, it reminds me of a show from the UK called Garth Marenghi's Darkplace. How did you react to the negative reaction it received back in '95 when it aired?

Because we've been doing stuff for such a long time, it really doesn't mean much at all. All I remember about the show is really enjoying it, just loving it. In fact, it's probably been the most enjoyable TV show we've ever done. So it's neither here nor there what critics make of it, but what people make of it.

We've only ever gauged things on our own feeling towards it, and we did enjoy doing it - we didn't want to do it forever - it's just we were in between Frontline series' and thought we really needed an antidote to that focused satire. And we thought, you know what let's muck around with this concept of cliche and seeing how far we could push the envelope with pure cliche.

Well, it wasn't the first time you had worked on the idea was it?

Well, Funky Squad was a radio serial on Breakfast radio in Melbourne for a couple of years, which we loved doing. Just packed with Naked Gun type jokes, and we wanted to put it on TV we thought "Well, what direction do we put it in?".  

Do we make it wall-to-wall gags? And then we realised that if you make it wall-to-wall gags, you actually compromise the concept of cliche. And we grew up absolutely adoring Starksy & Hutch and those kinds of TV shows. We just loved the concept of young, undercover cops who 'speak the language of the streets'. I think 21 Jump Street was out at the same time, and we just knew that it was the sort of concept that was going to come around over and over again. It was just an exercise in silliness really.

What I quite liked about it was that it's almost too accurate of a 1970s show in a way...

Well, yeah, in a way it is. It was a bit of a bind, you go "Hang on, is it funny enough?", because it's certainly good on the cliche and the overall detail. And at the end of the day, I think that's what threw people out a bit in that people though "Hang on, is it supposed to be funny or was it legitimately made in the 70s?".

I know that we had a great time doing it, and I know a lot of people used to have Funky Squad parties as they were watching the show and things like that. The spirit was nothing to analytical about what it actually does - it's just a silly show where you do wear silly wigs, and we're all playing  - not characters - but actors playing characters badly [laughs]. So it was an odd kind of television show, but certainly something we really enjoyed doing.

If anything, it's just a chance to see Tommy G in pants that separate his testicles...

[laughs] Of course!

Is it difficult to almost take a conscious backwards step and make the show look purposely worse than it should be?

Well sometime we'd stuff up on things like posters, like we had put in the wrong era. Sometime we would have a Queen poster - and it shouldn't have been in that era - and it makes you upset because you work so hard to make everything so authentic. And not only authentic - but authentic made badly.  Like 'Crash-Zooms' that don't quite work, or bad jokes  that you need to freeze frame on at the end with bad laughter - all that kind of stuff.

It is time consuming, and in the end quite exhausting. You know, to make the quality of the tape look like bad 70s film as well, it does take its toll. And, you know, we did have to go around to our parents wardrobes and raid them and make sure it was the right stuff from 1974. It couldn't be 1977 [laughs], it couldn't be '69 - it had to be from that era.

In terms of releasing a DVD, I've noticed that anything that Tony Martin has a hand in, there is usually more DVD extras than there is Feature footage...

[laughs] Spot on Sean, absolutely spot on! [Laughs]

Do you ever feel any pressure to have to put a bit more effort into DVD extras when Tony is setting such a high benchmark?

Look. Tony is...Tony is insane [laughs]. Tony and I have worked so much together, we worked together on the Bargearse/Olden Days DVD and we worked very hard on all the extras on that DVD. Mind you, I only worked a fraction of the time he worked because he's a freak in terms of that.

And he'll come running up to me going [excitedly] "We've set the new record on the amount of Easter Eggs on a DVD!". And I'm sitting there going "Tony...what's an Easter Egg??" [laughs].

We have a different point of view to Tony in that we like to present stuff, and just put it out there. In fact, when we put out The Castle: Collectors Edition - we wanted to put extra stuff on, but we didn't want to put it inside the DVD. So we worked on the presentation of it. And we put the  and extra stuff on it, like we wrote the music to the 'Bony Doon' song and got a musician to actually write that out properly. We re-created a lot of hard copy stuff on that as extras.

But it puts you in a bit of a bind. As in, should we include the entire radio series that Funky Squad was based on? Do we put out a little guide on how we lost 15 kilos each for this show? But you know what, in the end it's just best to put it out there and let it live on in people's memories.

It's also one of the few occasions that Tom, Jane [Kennedy] and yourself (who are normally the head writers) were at the forefront of the show. Any particular reason?

We were doing Frontline at the time and we took a rest. I think Rob [Sitch] went to Harvard or something for a year. And we the three of us probably had the most genuine love of 70s television. So we really wanted to make a genuine homage to it. We could have procrastinated it for a long time, but it was such a silly idea it didn't need much lead up time or thought. And I'm glad we did it, because it was one of the most enjoyable times - and at the end of it, we put our wigs away and got onto another series of Frontline.

So does that rule out any possibility of a Johnny Swank TV show?

[laughs] Aw Man! Are you kidding? Sean we've spoken about that so many times! Every idea is never a dead idea with us - we always try and re-invent it! We had the storyboards being made, we were thinking about making it a cartoon - there was all sorts of ideas floating around for that Johnny Swank. But don't be surprised if one day Johnny Swank appears in some kind of incarnation.

Finally, with the next Working Dog film - have you narrowed down any ideas yet as to what it might be?

No, not really. Obviously they are all comedies, but there's two or three we're starting to narrow it down to. And I would say in the next year or so, I reckon within next year, we will start making it. But I can't be more specific than that - because I don't actually know! But we are getting together now to write it - we all have little cells! Little sleeper cells in which to write in!! [laughs]


FUNKY SQUAD and THE LATE SHOW are out now on DVD
Read the UNEDITED Version of this Interview - CLICK HERE

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