Road Test: Honda Odyssey vs Mitsubishi Grandis
By Feann Torr & Peter Maniatis - 17/02/05
As
performance car fans, we often look at people movers with
derision. Seven seats? That's five too many, mate.
But for families of all sizes right across the world - including
ours - the people mover or MPV is a vital tool for getting
the groceries done, getting the kids to school, taking the
troops out for a meal or just visiting friends and family.
Having never driven these people movers before, we were a
little unsure of what to expect. And how would they go around
corners? Not that most buyers would need or want to know this,
but hey, it's what we do.
After punting two of the newest and shiniest MPVs about the
streets of Melbourne for a week, it becomes clear that these
family-friendly vehicles do an impressive job of transporting
bodies to and fro.
And now more than ever, you can own one of these minivan-like
vehicles and not feel like a complete tool when it's just
you and the Missus/Mister out for a leisurely drive down to
the art-house cinemaplex. If it's one thing that both Mitsubishi
and Honda have done with their respective people movers, it's
to make them appeal to the eye, and not just to necessity.
Let's take a look.
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Make: Mitsubishi
Model: Grandis
Price: $43,990
Transmission: 4-speed auto (tiptronic)
Engine: 2.4-litre, 16-valve, inline-four
Fuel Consumption: Combined: 10.4 litres/100km
Seats: 7
Safety: Front, front side and curtain airbags,
ABS, EBD
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Make: Honda
Model: Odyssey
Price: $45,290
Transmission: 5-speed auto (tiptronic)
Engine: 2.4-litre, 16-valve, inline-four
Fuel Consumption: Combined: 9.4 litres/100km
Seats: 7
Safety: Front, front side and curtain airbags,
ABS
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Drive
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The Mitsubishi Grandis
(top) and Honda Odyssey
have sedan-like ride and handling, but the Honda
takes the cake as the more rewarding drive
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To see where this type of people mover vehicle really comes
into its own is to visit a local school and see how the mums
and dads are coping.
The new school year brings with it new school uniforms, new
school bags and a stream of new school cars (or taxis as we've
been informed) with mums and dads exchanging holiday banter
and the pros and cons of their outdated station wagon or the
new 4-wheel drive.
Mums and dads seem to find themselves in a quandary of whether
to buy style and be hip (like a crossover 4WD) or get something
that is more functional but doesn't look like it is going
to take out the neighbours front fence.
The 4WD choice usually comes with a swag of justifications
that include strength, height, and that "we may take
it out on a dirt road someday".
Most offer a 6th and 7th seat as an afterthought, however,
making it a long winded way of getting a 3rd row for most
buyers.
The Grandis and Odyssey offer buyers a genuine 3rd row configuration
to take the kids to school and pick up their mates at sports
on the weekend, but without the higher running costs associated
with a 4WD alternative thanks to their smaller 4-cylinder
engines and car-like tyres.
Entry and exit in both vehicles is fairly straightforward,
but the Honda is lower with 119mm of ground clearance, compared
to the Mitsubishi's 155mm, making it a little easier to clamber
in and out of (and especially for little whipper snappers).
It's also interesting to note that both Australian-spec people
movers forego sliding rear doors in favour of a car-like 4-door
configuration.
We tested the only model Mitsubishi offers in Australia,
the $43,990 Grandis, and the upmarket Honda model, the $45,290
Odyssey Luxury (a cheaper $38,790 Odyssey is also offered).
For the driver, the seating position is slightly higher in
the Grandis, but both offer remarkably comfy and pleasant
interiors, with ample seat adjustments and leather bound steering
wheels. Replacing the Nimbus and Starwagon, Mitsubishi's new
Grandis looks great, but also proves its worth on the blacktop,
completing day-to-day duties with ease, the supple suspension
working well on shoddy roads.
At full tilt (and with no kids to weigh things down) the
Grandis offers up respectable handling, and the brakes do
well at slowing the 1660kg Mitsu down. But this isn't a sports
car, and doesn't like things too fast and furious.
Both vehicles sit on 16-inch alloy wheels and are shod with
215/60 R16 tyres, so when the Honda proved its worth in the
out-and-out driving stakes, we knew it wasn't due to more
grip from wider tyres. Both vehicles handle and ride more
akin to a sedan than a van, and can be quite enjoyable to
steer when given a nice stretch of black top.
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The Odyssey is 5mm wider
than the Grandis, but
the Mitsubishi has a more intuitive interior layout
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Their sedan-like behaviour is the result of both Honda and
Mitsubishi using independent suspension to connect all four
wheels to the subframe.
The Odyssey's double wishbone suspension is more advanced
than the struts/trailing arms in the Grandis, and it's ever-so-slightly
tighter and a bit stiffer, and the engine proved to be more
willing too.
On the downside, pot holes and craters in the road were more
acutely felt through the suspension in the Odyssey.
Despite this, the Honda is a more rewarding drive, its lower,
sleeker exterior image suggestive of its more responsive handling,
while in reality the lower ride and roof height helps keep
the CoG down.
It also uses less fuel than its Japanese rival, 9.4 compared
to the Gradis's 10.4 litres of fuel per 100km/h on the combined
city/highway cycle.
Brakes? Well, they've both got four of them, and they're
both up to the job of washing off speed quick smart. Neither
model excels over the other, and this makes sense when you
see how similar in size the brakes discs are: 300mm front
and 305mm rear for the Honda Odyssey 294mm front and 302mm
rear for the Mitsubishi Grandis.
Anchoring child seats in the Grandis was much easier than
in the Odyssey, as the Honda's anchorage points aren't what
you'd call 'perfectly positioned' and though the Honda has
a slightly nicer interior and is a more involving drive, the
Grandis wins when it comes to interior practicality, with
a user friendly and more spacious cabin.
Engine
Both the Odyssey and Grandis are a little underpowered for
our liking (what happened to Honda's torque-laden V6 Odyssey?),
but they held their own in most driving conditions with an
average load.
They'll pull up hills when needed thanks to their variable
valve timing equipped 4-cylinder engines and return impressive
fuel economy to boot. The Odyssey certainly felt a little
torquier and refined engine wise, but as far as transmission
shift quality goes, both cars offered similarly smooth gear
changes.
Both MPVs are kitted out with 2.4-litre petrol engines, and
Mitsubishi's Grandis gets a 4-speed auto, the Honda Odyssey
equipped with a 5-speed automatic gearbox, both transferring
their engine power to the ground via the front wheels. Here's
the vitals:
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Honda 2.4-litre L4
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Mitsubishi 2.4-litre L4
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The 2354cc Honda engine has an aluminium alloy engine
block and heads, has 4-cylinders in a inline formation
with 4-valves per cylinder. It has dual overhead camshafts
(DOHC), i-VTEC variable valve timing and lift, a 9.7:1
compression ratio plus a 65 litre fuel tank.
Max Power: 118kW @ 5500rpm
Max Torque: 218Nm @ 4500rpm
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Mitsubishi's 2378cc engine block is constructed out
of cast-iron, while the cylinder heads are made from
aluminium alloy. It has 4-valves per cylinder, variable
valve timing and lift and a single overhead camshaft
(SOHC). A compression ratio of 9.5:1 allows for regular
ULP use, filling a 65 litre fuel tank.
Max Power: 121kW @ 6000rpm
Max Torque: 217Nm @ 4000rpm
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Mitsubishi's 2378cc engine is slightly larger than than Honda's,
has only a single overhead cam and generates 3 more kilowatts,
but has to rev harder to do so. The Honda Odyssey's engine
is more advanced in almost every respect, and feels more powerful
on the road, but at the end of the day both engines are smooth
enough and quiet enough to please even the most picky of new
car buyers.
When it comes to fuel economy, both vehicles performed well
considering their 1600+ kilogram weights, but it was the Honda
that came out on top thanks to its lighter twin cam engine.
The Odyssey sipped 9.4 litres of petrol for every 100km/h
travelled (highway and city cycles combined), while the Grandis
with its cast-iron engine block managed 10.4 litres per 100km/h
on the combined cycle.
Exterior
Looking at the figures, the Mitsubishi Grandis stands 1655mm
tall, while the Odyssey measures 1550mm, the latter being
more than 10cm shorter than its rival and this gives the two
people movers quite different visual profiles.
The Odyssey is a more futuristic design. It's long and low,
has stylised blue headlights and a steeply angled front windscreen
that gives it an athletic appeal. There's also plenty of chrome
on the grille and other shiny highlights that will appeal
to those who are after something a little more showy, and
the 16-inch wheels integrate well with the overall look.
Mitsubishi's Grandis is styled more in the vein of a traditional
people mover, but it still looks immeasurably better than
many other models on the market at present.
It's got a good mixture of curves and angles, has solid overall
proportions and its front end looks quite aggressive too.
It isn't as uniformly flat and straight as the Odyssey, and
together with the vertically-stacked brake lights at the rear
of the vehicle, we reckon the Mitsubishi is more visually
pleasing of two.
Interior
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The Honda Odyssey interior
(top) and Mitsubishi
Grandis have different colour schemes but similar
door-to-door, all encompassing dashboards
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Both vehicles are deceptively roomy inside and provide plenty
of glass, which helps the driver see more of the road when
head checking and what not.
The Grandis sits a little higher than the Odyssey, but not
too high so that you feel like you're driving a van.
We drove the 'Luxury' Odyssey variant, and must admit that
the Honda designers have done a really good job of appointing
the interior - there's leather everywhere, and it's very comfy.
The instrumentation dials on the Odyssey look a bit "techy"
for our liking but provided a refreshing alternative to the
norm, but everything felt solid and refined and well-put-together
in the Odyssey.
The Grandis doesn't quite have the same level of luxury as
the Odyssey, but it's not quite as expensive so it's not a
critical criterion.
It does have more room however, and it's easier to modify
the seating in the Mitsubishi, and as mentioned earlier anchoring
the child seats in the Grandis was less of a task.
Like the Honda Odyssey, the Grandis has a 'Star ship Command'
style of dashboard that stretches from one side of the car
to the other and makes you feel well and truly in command
of your troops.
Both vehicles have their gear shifters mounted on the centre
console as well, and they both work just as seamlessly as
floor-mounted shifters.
Safety wise, both minivans do very well, offering almost
identical safety packages. The Odyssey Luxury model gets six
airbags - curtain airbags covering all three rows plus front
and side airbags for the driver and front passenger. ABS with
Electronic Brake force Distribution (EBD) also make the Honda
grade.
The Grandis also gets six airbags (with curtain airbags covering
all three rows) and ABS, and both models also come equipped
with sunroofs, 60/40 split second-row seating and 50/50 split
third-row seating with adjustable head rests. Finally, both
models have a number of clever (or annoying when things get
lost) storage ideas, from cup holders to CD holders.
Overall:
The Wombat Motoring crew explored the Honda Odyssey and Mitsubishi
Grandis for a taste of what can be achieved with a well-priced,
functional people mover, and both managed to dispel our preconceived
notions of what these MPVs would be like.
Far from sluggish, utilitarian vehicles bound to mediocrity
by their practical approach, these two people movers are freshly
styled, innovatively equipped and rather nice to drive.
The more expensive Chrysler Voyager remains in a different
class to the Odyssey and Grandis, fetching $55,990, but with
the value for money comparison with a 4WD alternative, you
can't go past either one of these vehicles if it's multiple
bodies that you're wanting to shift.
Both the Honda and the Mitsubishi could have used another
10 or 15 kilowatts of power to deal with a full load of seven
occupants and their gear, but as it stands both are very capable,
very practical four wheelers.
In conclusion, the Mitsubishi holds its own against the Honda,
especially with regards to value for money and interior space.
But the Odyssey has a little more refinement than the Grandis
in more than one area, and so we reckon the Odyssey edges
a Wombat nose in front.
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Pros:
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Cons:
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Versatile interiors
- Spacious
interiors
- Economic
engines
- Stylish
exteriors
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- Lack
of engine power
- No
sliding doors
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